Obviously some cartoonist has never seen actual wind turbines in action. They are strangely beautiful when you drive through Montana where they are standing like giants over the plains.
I guess since Chip has neither the intelligence nor the imagination to envision a future beyond fossil fuel dependence, we might as well just give up and live back in the 20th century.
OK, lemme see if I can figure out how Bok got here. Hm. This is marked as being 2050, so I guess he’s assuming that by now all power is being generated by windmills … and they’re so close together than they cannot work. This sort of exaggeration is legit in political cartoons. But stupid. Thirty years from now, we’ll have better wind power (probably not using windmills at all, except maybe some that are almost at end of life). Wind stalks are better already, and in thirty years: Wow.
Then there are all those OTHER sources of carbon-neutral power, solar being the big one. In Thirty years, in fact, we may be using satellites that slightly concentrate solar power and beam it (at the “bad sunburn” energy density level) at regional collectors which can be made even more efficient than rooftop solar cells. There are also already tidal generators being developed. And of course we’ve been getting hydro-electricity for the better part of a century. Heck there could even be hydrogen shipments from the asteroid belt to Earth.
This is the same tired, fake line that wind energy is no good. How many insane anti-wind (and anti-solar) claims have they made? It’s all because they are funded by fossil fuels.
Just another LIE, like the UTTER NONSENSE that people will only be allowed to have 4 pounds of meat a year. That one was SO STUPID that FAUX Noise had to totally disclaim it as a LIE after people like “Judge” Pirro and others spewed it on the air…along with Kudrow’s stupidity about people having to drink “Plant-Based beer”.
Seriously, EXACTLY HOW STUPID do the Qpublicans think that people are??? Well, we KNOW that THEIR FOLLOWERS are stupid, but the majority of people in the country, the people who actually THINK and KNOW THE TRUTH KNOW that it’s just nonsense.
NASA is exploring nuclear powered vehicles for space travel; so I’ll say it is safe to say humanity can evolve beyond fossil fuels to power our technology whether it’s renewable sources or just new discoveries. Would like minded Bok have insisted no way automotive developments would’ve ever replaced steam engines and horse powered transportation? Conservatives should be renamed the Regressive Party cause they hate progress.
Apparently Bok is so dumb he thinks that to meet sensible goals for reducing carbon emissions by 2050, we will have to cram wind turbines so close together that they cannot turn. Umm, no. Turbines do require separation, not just because of the blades, but because you don’t want to create a region where the air cannot flow.
Of course, if you look at old photos of oil fields, the wells did seem to nearly overlap each other in places like Signal Hill, California.
An estimate on Quora indicated about 1.26 million turbines would be needed to power the US. The land area of the US is 3.5 million square miles. So, notionally, one turbine for every 3 square miles. Okay, not every place in the US is good for putting turbines, so let’s assume something like 126,000 square miles. That’s larger than Arizona or New Mexico, but smaller than California, and half the size of Texas. 10 turbines per square mile. Using 9 per square mile for convenience, the separation is about 1/3 of a mile, or 1700 feet between turbines. Diameters for the rotors are on the order of 300 feet. Having driven across Iowa on I-80 in 2017, I can say there are places with which probably have that 10/square mile density, but they are isolated.
In reality, not all US power would come from either wind turbines or solar.
And turbines can be made in the form of cylinders with multiple blades with small horizontal extent, but large vertical extent. These would be better for birds, and the flow thru the wind farm is likely to be better.
So are you saying that we should only invest in power supplies which never ever break down or require maintenance?Sounds good, please let us know what that is. Because heaven forbid that we invest in something which will provide power for decades.
They are already needing to be replaced in many areas as they reach the end of their usable lifespan. Unfortunately, the blades are not recyclable so they are cut into large chunks that present a new problem. At this point they are just being buried in large pits that will present a problem for folks somewhere down the line.
Shod over 1 year ago
Obviously some cartoonist has never seen actual wind turbines in action. They are strangely beautiful when you drive through Montana where they are standing like giants over the plains.
Say What Now‽ Premium Member over 1 year ago
The inner workings of Bok’s head.
RAGs over 1 year ago
Does Bok make ANY sense at all, or is this another republican fake news story?
Daeder over 1 year ago
I guess since Chip has neither the intelligence nor the imagination to envision a future beyond fossil fuel dependence, we might as well just give up and live back in the 20th century.
/s
Concretionist over 1 year ago
OK, lemme see if I can figure out how Bok got here. Hm. This is marked as being 2050, so I guess he’s assuming that by now all power is being generated by windmills … and they’re so close together than they cannot work. This sort of exaggeration is legit in political cartoons. But stupid. Thirty years from now, we’ll have better wind power (probably not using windmills at all, except maybe some that are almost at end of life). Wind stalks are better already, and in thirty years: Wow.
Then there are all those OTHER sources of carbon-neutral power, solar being the big one. In Thirty years, in fact, we may be using satellites that slightly concentrate solar power and beam it (at the “bad sunburn” energy density level) at regional collectors which can be made even more efficient than rooftop solar cells. There are also already tidal generators being developed. And of course we’ve been getting hydro-electricity for the better part of a century. Heck there could even be hydrogen shipments from the asteroid belt to Earth.
LookingGlass Premium Member over 1 year ago
One thing about Baghdad Bok, he never fails at displaying the fact that he’s a zounderkite!!
/SHEESH/
sevaar777 over 1 year ago
Another Bokked up mind mess.
cdward over 1 year ago
This is the same tired, fake line that wind energy is no good. How many insane anti-wind (and anti-solar) claims have they made? It’s all because they are funded by fossil fuels.
Patjade Premium Member over 1 year ago
I see Baghdad Bok has absolutely no idea what he’s cartooning about. #justPaynestupid.
Durak Premium Member over 1 year ago
Yes, let’s NOT do a thing that needs to be done because the ignorant are afriad that it won’t work.
dnie over 1 year ago
See TEXAS, 2021.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 1 year ago
Just another LIE, like the UTTER NONSENSE that people will only be allowed to have 4 pounds of meat a year. That one was SO STUPID that FAUX Noise had to totally disclaim it as a LIE after people like “Judge” Pirro and others spewed it on the air…along with Kudrow’s stupidity about people having to drink “Plant-Based beer”.
Seriously, EXACTLY HOW STUPID do the Qpublicans think that people are??? Well, we KNOW that THEIR FOLLOWERS are stupid, but the majority of people in the country, the people who actually THINK and KNOW THE TRUTH KNOW that it’s just nonsense.
Masterskrain Premium Member over 1 year ago
^ Just when you thought that it was safe in the comments section…the morons attack.
Deny Crane over 1 year ago
Well it sure we would be nice if Wind Energy would work. I bet it would be more successful if Obama had given THEM $500M too!
DrDon1 over 1 year ago
Bok is both a source of and catalyst for Stupidity!
@Rad-ish Premium Member over 1 year ago
Oil dependency needs to be phased out.
ferddo over 1 year ago
Only contractors who intend to deliberately sabotage the equipment would install it that way.
svcman98 over 1 year ago
both!!
ndblackirish97 over 1 year ago
NASA is exploring nuclear powered vehicles for space travel; so I’ll say it is safe to say humanity can evolve beyond fossil fuels to power our technology whether it’s renewable sources or just new discoveries. Would like minded Bok have insisted no way automotive developments would’ve ever replaced steam engines and horse powered transportation? Conservatives should be renamed the Regressive Party cause they hate progress.
OldCoal over 1 year ago
And yet another ignorant toon from Bok the incompetent.
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member over 1 year ago
Apparently Bok is so dumb he thinks that to meet sensible goals for reducing carbon emissions by 2050, we will have to cram wind turbines so close together that they cannot turn. Umm, no. Turbines do require separation, not just because of the blades, but because you don’t want to create a region where the air cannot flow.
Of course, if you look at old photos of oil fields, the wells did seem to nearly overlap each other in places like Signal Hill, California.
An estimate on Quora indicated about 1.26 million turbines would be needed to power the US. The land area of the US is 3.5 million square miles. So, notionally, one turbine for every 3 square miles. Okay, not every place in the US is good for putting turbines, so let’s assume something like 126,000 square miles. That’s larger than Arizona or New Mexico, but smaller than California, and half the size of Texas. 10 turbines per square mile. Using 9 per square mile for convenience, the separation is about 1/3 of a mile, or 1700 feet between turbines. Diameters for the rotors are on the order of 300 feet. Having driven across Iowa on I-80 in 2017, I can say there are places with which probably have that 10/square mile density, but they are isolated.
In reality, not all US power would come from either wind turbines or solar.
And turbines can be made in the form of cylinders with multiple blades with small horizontal extent, but large vertical extent. These would be better for birds, and the flow thru the wind farm is likely to be better.
evanmarhews over 1 year ago
just like Trump. Doesn’t read and stupid !
apfelzra Premium Member over 1 year ago
Another fool (Bok) who neither understands science nor cares much about the earth’s future (or his own).
MuddyUSA Premium Member over 1 year ago
Another Counter Point liberal point of nonsense!
rmfrye Premium Member over 1 year ago
Is this the best you can come up with? Sad
jader3rd over 1 year ago
So are you saying that we should only invest in power supplies which never ever break down or require maintenance?Sounds good, please let us know what that is. Because heaven forbid that we invest in something which will provide power for decades.
tebc7220 over 1 year ago
They are already needing to be replaced in many areas as they reach the end of their usable lifespan. Unfortunately, the blades are not recyclable so they are cut into large chunks that present a new problem. At this point they are just being buried in large pits that will present a problem for folks somewhere down the line.