In the spring of 1987, when they should have been talking about Reagan’s malfeasance, the Washington press decided they had a safer target in the Democratic presidential candidates! (It’s telling that the GOP candidates were subject to no such pile-on—I didn’t notice any significant superiority on their part.) The mainstream press shrugged off Iran-Contra before the American people did…
I for one have NOT forgiven Reagan: he should have gone to prison like any war criminal, and I’m sure he’s gone to hell.
Oh yeah. I almost forgot about Oliver North and all that Iran/Contra stuff. I hear the NRA canned North because he claimed the head guy was crooked. …makes you think.
So, here is a question for you Yanks, not an opinion. The narrative is that you fight the good fight in a presidential election, do your best for your guy (and they have all been guys) but once X is elected, they are The President, revered by the nation and given due deference. So who was the last president for whom that was true? Obviously not Biden, tRump, Obama, BushII, Clinton, BushI (though all for different but related reasons). Ronnie at the time (though the glitter has worn off in hindsight)? Carter?
The Clintons were, and still are, corporatists who tried to be socially progressive, but were frustrated by Newt Gingrinch and his Contract On America among other things.
When I was in high school back in the 60s, my social studies teacher pointed out that if the US pulled a veto in the United Nations Security Council, there was an uproar, but when the USSR did … crickets. (Well, he didn’t use that term because it wasn’t a term back then.) Because the USSR always pulled vetoes, so they were held to a lesser standard than the US.
For the record: For more than 3 decades, the RepubliQans had pretty much constant “investigations” going. I use the quotation marks because these exercises in partisan persecution had no interest in truth; they were intended to find something – anything to pin on a Clinton – any Clinton.
For the millions of man-hours and hundreds of million of tax dollars they expended, they came up with a total of 1 (one) felony indictment of a distant associate for something completely unrelated to the Clintons, and one impeachment for lying about a beej. Period.
So, while Bill & Hillary are both corporately controlled conservatives, we know that there are at least 2 people in US politics who are not criminals, thanks to the right’s obsession with “proving” otherwise.
“We’re talking about the most ethically challenged White House in a century.” Hah! Not anymore, you’re not! The Babe Ruth of Corruption, the Koup Klux Kommander has set the new record far beyond anyone’s reach. Until 2024, of course.
BE THIS GUY about 1 year ago
Since only liberals are held to ethical standards, I guess Chase isn’t counting Watergate, either.
Bullet Bronson Premium Member about 1 year ago
Just wait about two decades, Chase. Then you’ll see ethically challenged.
Johnny Q Premium Member about 1 year ago
In the spring of 1987, when they should have been talking about Reagan’s malfeasance, the Washington press decided they had a safer target in the Democratic presidential candidates! (It’s telling that the GOP candidates were subject to no such pile-on—I didn’t notice any significant superiority on their part.) The mainstream press shrugged off Iran-Contra before the American people did…
I for one have NOT forgiven Reagan: he should have gone to prison like any war criminal, and I’m sure he’s gone to hell.
braindead Premium Member about 1 year ago
Mark has forgotten that It’s OKAY If A Republican Does It!
fuzzbucket about 1 year ago
Clinton got away with a hell of a lot, but mainly because he kept us laughing while he did it.
VegaAlopex about 1 year ago
Clinton is a “liberal”? Don’t make me laugh. He’s a corporate Democrat. If he were in Canada, he’d be a Progressive Conservative.
PaulAbbott2 about 1 year ago
To quote Bachman Turner Overdrive, “you Ain’t seen nothin’ yet”
ACK! Premium Member about 1 year ago
Republicans – setting new standards in hypocracy (sic).
Masterskrain Premium Member about 1 year ago
It was the Republican line of thought then, and it’s STILL the Republican line of thought today!
“DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO!!”Olddog04 about 1 year ago
Some things never change.
Jaymi Cee Premium Member about 1 year ago
Ah…salad days.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member about 1 year ago
Oh yeah. I almost forgot about Oliver North and all that Iran/Contra stuff. I hear the NRA canned North because he claimed the head guy was crooked. …makes you think.
this is summerdog about 1 year ago
Couldn’t Chase have been drawn a tiny bit better looking? Or a lot?
robertthomasson about 1 year ago
So, here is a question for you Yanks, not an opinion. The narrative is that you fight the good fight in a presidential election, do your best for your guy (and they have all been guys) but once X is elected, they are The President, revered by the nation and given due deference. So who was the last president for whom that was true? Obviously not Biden, tRump, Obama, BushII, Clinton, BushI (though all for different but related reasons). Ronnie at the time (though the glitter has worn off in hindsight)? Carter?
Teto85 Premium Member about 1 year ago
The Clintons were, and still are, corporatists who tried to be socially progressive, but were frustrated by Newt Gingrinch and his Contract On America among other things.
mindjob about 1 year ago
feigning outrage again
Bucinka about 1 year ago
Ah, courtship talk.
Bob Blumenfeld about 1 year ago
When I was in high school back in the 60s, my social studies teacher pointed out that if the US pulled a veto in the United Nations Security Council, there was an uproar, but when the USSR did … crickets. (Well, he didn’t use that term because it wasn’t a term back then.) Because the USSR always pulled vetoes, so they were held to a lesser standard than the US.
198.23.5.11 about 1 year ago
These two were inspired by Felix Unger and Oscar Madison.
Drummer54 about 1 year ago
Some things never change.
Brazosman1 about 1 year ago
I can’t recall the number of times somebody said, “Well, you should have known!” Ehh, any excuse is a good one for an execution!
Cozmik Cowboy about 1 year ago
For the record: For more than 3 decades, the RepubliQans had pretty much constant “investigations” going. I use the quotation marks because these exercises in partisan persecution had no interest in truth; they were intended to find something – anything to pin on a Clinton – any Clinton.
For the millions of man-hours and hundreds of million of tax dollars they expended, they came up with a total of 1 (one) felony indictment of a distant associate for something completely unrelated to the Clintons, and one impeachment for lying about a beej. Period.
So, while Bill & Hillary are both corporately controlled conservatives, we know that there are at least 2 people in US politics who are not criminals, thanks to the right’s obsession with “proving” otherwise.
Geophyzz about 1 year ago
With the current shenanigans in the ReTrupmlican party, these past skirmishes are boring.
sisterea about 1 year ago
Things never change do they
SavannahJim Premium Member about 1 year ago
THAT explains a LOT! Changes exactly bupkiss but at least I can sleep again.
mrwalker008 about 1 year ago
BORING!
198.23.5.11 about 1 year ago
BLAST FROM THE PAST
When Wendell Willkie was running against FDR in 1940,he was a little dizzy from a grueling whistle stop train tour.
He says—“I’m happy to be here in teh great metropolitan city of Chicago!”
An aide whispers to him that it isn’t Chicago,they’re in the suburb of Cicero.
And Willkie says—“This is Cicero?Okay,then to hell with Chicago!!”.The Democratic Machine didn’t like it.
moondog42 Premium Member about 1 year ago
Eh, at least half what conservatives said Billy Jeff did was forged from whole cloth, and had little basis in actual objective reality.
NatureBatsLast about 1 year ago
Clinton a Liberal?? Ha!
Rich Douglas about 1 year ago
“We’re talking about the most ethically challenged White House in a century.” Hah! Not anymore, you’re not! The Babe Ruth of Corruption, the Koup Klux Kommander has set the new record far beyond anyone’s reach. Until 2024, of course.
jvscanlan Premium Member about 1 year ago
Thank’s for modern politics Newt . . .
eddi_tbh about 1 year ago
Clinton was what JFK would have been with a less well-controlled press.
rossevrymn Premium Member about 1 year ago
basically
mistercatworks about 1 year ago
This is actually a good point. You cannot pretend to hold a higher ethical standard and yet use the “everybody’s doing it” excuse.
It was said that everyone left a meeting with President Clinton with the feeling that they had been heard and agreed with. Of course, the next day …
Charming guy who actually did get a lot done but had trouble admitting he couldn’t keep it in his pants.