Jeff Stahler for September 20, 2023

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    Erse IS better  6 months ago

    I have had a Ford hybrid pickup on order for more than a year. I’m betting it’ll be another year, approximately. And if the price goes up (what IS the price, really, if they’re not actually delivering them?) significantly, I’ll probably just buy a Honda. Or maybe by then there’ll be a Toyota…

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    knutdl  6 months ago

    There are too many cars in USA.

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    fuzzbucket Premium Member 6 months ago

    Sure, as long as you can repair your beater.

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    Imagine  6 months ago

    Yup. It’s tough having to give up the third and fourth cars.

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    braindead Premium Member 6 months ago

    Back when America was Great Again, journeyman grocery store workers were able to buy a house within a few miles of where they worked. Some of their wives worked; some didn’t. Most had two cars and their children could go to college if they achieved the grades or test scores.

    The same was true for auto workers.

    Republicans now HATE situations like that and want to prevent them from ever coming back.

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    oldspacehound  6 months ago

    Don’t blame the workers that make the cars.

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    phritzg Premium Member 6 months ago

    The price of their second vehicle will depend more on how much the executives decide their salaries and bonuses will be, after throwing a few crumbs to the people that actually build their products.

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    FJB  Premium Member 6 months ago

    Doubtful. Auto Union Boss Wants 46% Raise, 32-Hour Work Week in ‘War’ Against Detroit Carmakers. Right, that’s certainly being reasonable, so I can see why Biden supports this.

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    akachman Premium Member 6 months ago

    Oh, the good ol’ days: a working wage that allowed a family to live fairly well, have a couple cars, and go on a vacation. How silly to dream a reasonable dream.

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    s49nav  6 months ago

    “Will we be able to afford being a two-car family?”

    Yes, but you’ll be buying them from China. And the former UAW strikers will be asking you "Would you like cheese on that cheeseburger?

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    MC4802 Premium Member 6 months ago

    Will the worker be able to afford the vehicle they are building?

    “Ford’s policy proved that paying employees more would enable them to afford the cars they were producing and thus boost the local economy.”

    https://en#wikipedia#org/wiki/Henry_Ford

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    The Nodding Head  6 months ago

    The two car family was a product of the mass migration to the suburbs in the 1950s, accompanied by a decline of public transportation. Americans now consider commuting a norm. ‘Twasn’t always so.

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    Denver Reader Premium Member 6 months ago

    Not if you buy from the big 3. But buy other cars and you’ll be fine.

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    DC Swamp  6 months ago

    Yes, but don’t buy the crap from the Big 3 and their extortionist UAW labor unions. There are non-union manufacturers to choose from.

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    Havel  6 months ago

    Since 2019 we’ve had only one car. It does present difficulties at times, but in my opinion, the savings outweigh the costs.

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    Alberta Oil Premium Member 6 months ago

    Yup, just keep the two you have and unless you have kids to sell, don’t even think of buying new.

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    NeedaChuckle Premium Member 6 months ago

    If you have a union that helps you get a LIVING WAGE instead of working for a whole $7.29/hour, I think you can.

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    Retrac Premium Member 6 months ago

    Americans will not be able to afford to “buy American” much longer.

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    SukieCrandall Premium Member 6 months ago

    Reduce the compensation packages for the chief executives and members of the Boards. These are the pay (not extra compensation like Golden Parachutes, company cars, etc according to the source I used) of CEOs of the three companies compared to the average worker.

    Stellantis. 365 to 1

    GM. 362 to 1

    Ford. 281 to 1

    Is the CEO at Stellantis really worth 365 line workers who actually make the cars? Sorry, but no.

    In recent decades we have all seen the same pattern repeat itself over and over with major companies failing FROM THE TOP DOWN. It is a logical thing for all who invest to take into account when also looking into the more standard things like P/E ratios and savings vs debts of companies whose stocks MIGHT be of interest.

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    Radish the wordsmith  6 months ago

    You don’t get it, resources are scarce, there are too many people, everything will continue to get more expensive.

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    thelordthygod666  6 months ago

    Sure. There are two dozen new cars & SUVs available for under $29,000 that seat 4 to 6 people. No one is being forced to spend $50k+ on a new vehicle.

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    sperry532  6 months ago

    Most of us can’t even afford to be a one-car family these days. The cost of a new car is far beyond what the median-income family can afford.

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    david_42  6 months ago

    Easy, we have a 2004 and a 2006.

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    morningglory73 Premium Member 6 months ago

    Sometimes I think it would have been better if the US had made train travel as prevalent here as it is in other countries.

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    ShadowMaster  5 months ago

    Who knows? That said, I’m glad my 22-year-old truck still runs well.

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    Another Take  5 months ago

    No. And you’ll have to return one of your kids too.

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    dflak  5 months ago

    This is the same argument as raising the minimum wage: it’s inflationary. If the minimum wage went up as fast as corporate executive salaries it would be about $50 and hour.

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    tabby  5 months ago

    Assembly line worker’s pay is not the biggest chunk of the cost of a vehicle and raising it is not the biggest cause of the rising cost of vehicles. Most of the cost comes from the top.

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    Rich Douglas  5 months ago

    Prices are not determined by wages. Prices are determined by demand.

    Wages affect profit margins. I’m sure you’re not saying you’re worried about their profit margins, right?

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    macmantoo  5 months ago

    You might be able to afford a lot of stuff if the CEOs would take a cut in wages. Instead of blaming the guys who make things, how about looking at the pay the CEOs are getting.

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    salmon43  5 months ago

    Maybe, if you don’t buy from GM, Ford or Stellantis.

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    Radish the wordsmith  5 months ago

    Okay, so I have an idea, and it’s kind of crazy, but hear me out: what if rich people paid taxes?

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    banjoAhhh!   5 months ago

    It’s a good thing the Union is on strike. They are the ones who make the product and they deserve more pay than some even-a- trained- chimpanzee-could-do- his-job as CEO. I also like that they want an actual pension instead of the Wall Street scam of 401K. Unions built the middle class. reagan destroyed the middle class by supporting corporations over people and destroying unions.

    Stop whining. Get a union at your place of work and then you can be middle class again.

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    sandpiper  5 months ago

    You can if you know a good mechanic. Have him/her evaluate your present rides, then take on a repair/refurb schedule that lets you update them without a single big hit on your budget. Our 2 are 20 years and 16 years respectfully, with relatively low mileage, and are, I’m happy to say, mechanically good for about as much longer as I’m going to need wheels. Yep, they might break in a way that can’t be fixed, but, for now, they are just fine.

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    macmantoo  5 months ago

    Why do people get so worried when workers strike for better pay and working conditions but don’t care that the CEO makes 500X what the actual workers are being paid?

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