Jeff Stahler for December 12, 2023

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    ibFrank  5 months ago

    Only Republicans can tell you if it can be free speech or what the right answer is.

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    cracker65  5 months ago

    When they kick MTG out of office, then they might have some credibility.

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    cdward  5 months ago

    Free Speech is only for Republicans, didn’t you know that?

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    akachman Premium Member 5 months ago

    Calling for the genocide of any group of people is not covered under free speech. Stupid college students.

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    dflak  5 months ago

    FDR: We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

    GOP: We have nothing to fear but immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Chinese, LGBTQ, Mickey Mouse, Barbie, Legos, Mr. Potato Head, Dr. Seuss, M & Ms, and any woke history that does not support white, male, heterosexual, Christian supremacy.

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    davidthoms1  5 months ago

    Ban truth and encourage lies seems to be the MAGA interpretation of our first Amendment.

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    sandpiper  5 months ago

    Free speech – the last great tradition to fall to the axes of the intolerant, the bigoted, the biased.

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    rossevrymn  5 months ago

    Free Speech and responsibility, those 2 terms are FOREVER linked at the hip.

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    bbenoit  5 months ago

    The unfortunate state of our times. A congressional hearing designed to score political points for one party by grilling college/university presidents and badgering them by demanding, in raised voice and emotional tone, that they answer questions about complicated issues with simplistic, one word, answers. Of course, calling for the extermination of ANY group is reprehensible. College students are often vocal, underinformed, emotional, undisciplined and still, by definition, learning. They say stupid stuff sometimes, I sure did. However, if they, the college presidents, stopped anyone from voicing their opinion, however disgusting, they’d be liable for violating someone else’s 1st Amendment rights. It’s a difficult path to navigate, though I’m sure someone is going to tell me how simple it is. Perhaps, instead of the political theater, they should have asked the presidents to meet with them and discuss the issues in a quiet, dignified and respectful manner. You know, like the adults they’re supposed to be. Not like the kids they’re complaining about.

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    Alberta Oil Premium Member 5 months ago

    Only trump and his ilk have unlimited “free speech”. The rest of us mere mortals might offend.. someone.

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    Alberta Oil Premium Member 5 months ago

    The Jewish coalition is strong. They.. will accept no criticism of their cause.

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    ForALaugh Premium Member 5 months ago

    Only if the university is Jewish owned.

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    ehselin1967  5 months ago

    Freedom just another way…of saying nothing left to lose

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    leonardonyc  5 months ago

    Wait so now you notice? Cause many of these schools and their students have stopped, ban and attack free speech. Also it was about their own code of conduct

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    casonia2  5 months ago

    Yeah. I’d like a source for this statement that university students are calling for genocide. I suspect that someone expressed sympathy for the civilians of Gaza and the RWNJs have blown it up into a tempest in a teapot as is typical of their usual exaggeration and deflection activities.

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    ChristopherBurns  5 months ago

    The First Amendment is tricky. It says that the GOVERNMENT can not silence your speech. It doesn’t protect you from the consequences of what you say. It doesn’t mean that a media source HAS TO publish an opinion. Private schools, such as Harvard or MIT can make any rules they want regarding speech or behavior on campus. Public schools – Penn. State – must follow the First Amendment.

    The presidents of the three colleges answered the question about genocide correctly, it depends on the context. For instance, Johnathon Swift wrote a satirical essay, “A Modest Proposal” that advocated that to solve the “Irish Problem”, the Irish should eat their young to prevent them from being a burden on English society. Would a college be obligated to discipline him? Should we ban all his works? Context matters.

    If you shout “From the River to the Sea” are you advocating genocide or a free Palestine? Who gets to decide?

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    sandpiper  5 months ago

    One of many rights that have to be done and redone most frequently in this ‘democracy.’

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