Matt Davies for December 10, 2009

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    kennethcwarren64  over 13 years ago

    Never happen, the Republicans will never say anything Obama does is good.

    The Republicans have a simple plan, and sad to say it is working. PARTY BEFORE COUNTRY.

    The Republicans want back into power, if Obama succeeds there is no way they can get back into power so their plan is to do nothing to help Obama, even if it is good for the Country.

    So they attack everything he does, even if it is as simple as going out to dinner with his wife in New York, or goiing on a late night talk show. And it works, they attack, the Democrats repond, and all anybody remembers is the attacks.

    Simple but it is working. The Democrats need to get tough and fight back.

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    Kylop  over 13 years ago

    “…Never happen, the Republicans will never say anything Obama does is good. ….”

    I think they did say it was a good speech. At least some.

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    believecommonsense  over 13 years ago

    ^ and a misologist who treats America’s founding principles with disdain

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    tpenna  over 13 years ago

    Heh. This one made me chuckle.

    And you’re right, fennec. The speech was overflowing with Niebuhrian ideals.

    Personally, I think that Niebuhr’s Christian “realism” was slightly too far a pendulum swing away from Rauschenbusch’s overly optimistic “Christianizing” of “the Social Order”. Don’t get me wrong. I absolutely love Niebuhr’s theological and ethical writings. But I would say his “realism” occasionally turned into pessimism.

    We can see evidence of this in his own reluctance to fully support Martin Luther King’s activities in the civil rights movement. Even though King cited him in his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”, Niebuhr himself didn’t believe that agape love could ever truly make any difference at the societal level. Ultimately, I think King was right in saying that Niebuhr gave inadequate attention to the doctrine of divine grace and the Christian virtue of hope.

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    riley05  over 13 years ago

    The majority of Americans want health care reform with a public option. The Republicans, therefore, are fighting both as much as they can, to the benefit of the insurance companies.

    That’s representing the country, Howie?

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    Motivemagus  over 13 years ago

    Yeah, calling Obama a “leftist” “Marxist” “Maoist” “Communist” would be simply hilarious if it weren’t so vicious. He’s a centrist and always has been. Only FoxNews, which is so far right it goes in circles, can claim him as “radical” and not break into a snicker. Frankly, those who keep asserting this are either being deliberately deceptive or don’t read enough. We’ve never had a true left in this country with any significant power; the closest was probably Upton Sinclair’s End Poverty in California movement in the 1930s, which Robert Heinlein (yes, the one beloved of libertarians) worked for and ran for office in.

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    Motivemagus  over 13 years ago

    And for the record, I’m not that kind of lefty, either, despite some people’s false beliefs.

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    riley05  over 13 years ago

    Have done, Howie. Americans want a public option to provide competition that would drive down insurance rates.

    The Republicans, therefore, fight it.

    Care to expound upon your lying claim?

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    parkersinthehouse  over 13 years ago

    does everyone understand that the nobel committee members know that there’s a war, that it’s necessary, that there are others worthy of the prize, that there will be the usual yay/nay, that there are weak-minded non-supporters of a black president, that the power of negative noise-makers is real, that the world could use a dose of faith in the US president from a place other than the red states of america

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    riley05  over 13 years ago

    The majority specifically is in favor of a public option, Howie, not just health care reform in general.

    If they aren’t in favor of it “as written”, it’s because by “as written” you refer to the fact that it’s being so watered down as to be useless. Put off for years, made optional by the states, etc.

    Given how the general opinion of government programs usually involves words like “bloated”, “inefficient”, “wasteful”, “bureaucratic”, etc., why do you think the insurance companies are so terrified by the idea of competition from a public option that they’re buying Republican congressmen by the handful?

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