Michael Ramirez for July 04, 2022

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    Daeder  5 months ago


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    Concretionist  5 months ago

    That was more than 200 years ago. In case you haven’t noticed, things have changed. A lot. Which is one of the reasons that “originalist” legal theories are a crock. (See, for instance, what Jefferson had to say about that very issue).

    PS: Not to put too fine a point on it, none of us would be qualified to do anything useful back then. Even if we’re literate now, we’d have trouble reading and a LOT of trouble writing. Of course, the other thing we wouldn’t have: Enough money to hire all that stuff done for us… which (nearly?) all the founding fathers DID have.

    PPS: SOME of the founding fathers had been to university, but far from all. And what was taught there is laughably wrong or inadequate by today’s standards. Though they did demand you learn another language (Latin) and probably expected you to speak French as well.

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    Radish the old word monger Premium Member 5 months ago

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare…

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    scote1379 Premium Member 5 months ago

    And John Hancock says " Yaaah…..Noooooo , now get out of my meeting hall. " John Hancock was no fool !

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    knutdl  5 months ago

    Regardless of nationality. “The poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That’s how it goes. Everybody knows” (Leonard Cohen)

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    buer  5 months ago

    Right, according to Ramirez it should be the right to blindly worship baby jesus and give millions to his preachers so they can fly around in jets, forbid abortions even in cases of incest or rape but make sure little kids can find their parents guns so that they can shoot their siblings, and give access to guns to any degenerate or mentally ill person so that they can go and massacre children or innocent bystanders. The right to charge obscene amounts for health care, the right to pollute, the right to create wars all over the world, the right to increase social conflicts, to have vigilantes and cops more dangerous than criminels. All of this would be better than free healthcare, because free healthcare is obviously the mark of the devil.

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    baroden  5 months ago

    Conservatives REALLY need to brush up on their definitions of communism.

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    Havel  5 months ago

    Yet, in 1776, could anything have been more radical than declaring-GASP-independence from the mother country? On the basis of INDIVIDUAL right to life, liberty and happiness? If we don’t recognize the aspirational nature of the D of I, and continue to work toward its fulfillment, what was the point of it?

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    bkincaid  5 months ago

    ^ The ’bot has word-salad diarrhea.

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    VegaAlopex  5 months ago

    and who’s going to consider corporations as persons? The Founding Fathers already had their guaranteed income, no student loans, and the best healthcare at the time.

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    1StrongBlackWoman Premium Member 5 months ago

    Greetings in Freedom to all conservatives, “Happy Independence Day”! This holiday has been made possible by citizens who were free to own guns. Celebrate the day while the liberal trolls sulk in the darkness of their hatred.

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    MC4802 Premium Member 5 months ago

    @MichaelRamirez…You sir, being NOT a white male landowner would NOT have been in the room. Your good friend Clarence Thomas would be considered 3/5 of a human being for the census, would NOT be able to vote and would be in jail for having relations with Ginni. While the founders gave us a good platform and excellent goals, they were not perfect.

    Oh…and initially I thought it was a Q, not a hammer & sickle.

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    The Nodding Head  5 months ago

    The Old always dump on the Young.

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    guyjen2004 Premium Member 5 months ago

    Happy Independence Day to all who appreciate this great nation, even if we have our flaws. Enjoy your 4th of July, all! :)

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    suzalee  5 months ago

    This phrase in the preamble to the Constitution indicates caring for all citizens “promote the general Welfare,”

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    fusilier  5 months ago

    The Roman Republic and Empire offered the Cura Annonae, a regular distribution of free or subsidized grain or bread to poorer residents. The grain subsidy was first introduced by Gaius Gracchus in 123 B.C., then further institutionalized by Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar,

    In 1795, American revolutionary Thomas Paine advocated a citizen’s dividend to all United States citizens as compensation for “loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property” (Agrarian Justice, 1795).

    (Excerpted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaranteed_minimum_income)

    Richard Nixon (yes, THAT Richard Nixon) proposed a guaranteed minimum income for all Americans – until University of Chicago (not Harvard) economist Milton Friedman got his ear. That was in 1969.

    OH, and Mr. Ramirez seems to blythely ignore the fact that these same people were quite happy with owning human beings as chattel slaves.



    James 2:24

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    Sovan  5 months ago

    The United States is the greatest country in the history of the world. It is the inspiration for liberty loving people all over the world. It has lifted more people up and created more wealth any any country, ever. What the Founding Fathers created was a true miracle.

    If you don’t believe this, I’m ashamed of you, your teachers, the choice of the books you’ve read, the authors of the books you’ve read, the news sources you choose, and your ongoing efforts to destroy the very country that supports your pampered life.

    Happy July 4th to those who love this country and bah humbug to those who don’t.

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    Durak Premium Member 5 months ago

    The American Revolution was an experiment in liberal, radical, Enlightenment Era thinking.

    It was a way of thinking that men like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and John Adams all expected to continue to grow and to spread. America was to be a place where all men were created equal and democracy ruled.

    My proof is the Declaration of Independence itself. Jefferson wrote it in a deliberate manner, to prove to the other nations of the earth AND THEIR LEADERS, (the King of Spain, the King of France, the Tsarina of Russia and so on) that we did not want to bring down THEIR nations.

    Their experiment, democracy WORKED. It was difficult, but it worked.

    We cannot, like Ramirez, give up hope in that experiment. It needs to continue and to grow.

    We must push for liberal, progressive thinking in America. We cannot slump back into the world of haves and havenots of the 18th century, where the wealth was pooled and concentrated among the “nobility” and that because they were the nobility they had the right to rule us.

    Democracy is MORE than a political party. It means that ALL of us have value and meaning. That I can tell Donald Trump or Joe Biden that he is a fool and he is wrong.

    We have seen both men. If I were to tell Trump that he was an idiot he’d shout me down, have me arrested, and throw every lawyer he has at me. If I were to tell Biden the same thing he’d want to sit and talk and he would listen to me. This is why I will support a man like Biden EVERY-TIME over a man like Trump. Until someone better came along. Not because Biden is a Democrat, but because he is democratic.

    God Bless America and God Bless our American democratic republic.

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    Retrac Premium Member 5 months ago

    Take the time today to thoroughly read the Declaration of Independence. It is an extremely powerful document. And it is not the Constitution which some commentators seem to believe. https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

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    Zebrastripes  5 months ago

    …at least they go to college….the rest can’t even read or understand and are easily led.

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    Jack7528  5 months ago

    If we had people like that back in the day, we never would have had a country. England would have laughed and sold the territories to France.

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    Muzkfctry Premium Member 5 months ago

    You gotta love how the Fascists (aka insurrectionists) portray Democrats and the otherwise sane.

    1/6 – Never forget.

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    flpmlp  5 months ago

    Michael, I’m awed by your ability to draw such intricate pictures plus a good commentary…………..every day! Great job!

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    Geezer  5 months ago

    We are endowed by our Creator with a right to the fruits of other people’s labor.

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    lonecat  5 months ago

    Instead of a Universal Basic Income, how about a guarantee that everyone can get a decent job that pays well? Up here in Canada we have Universal Health Insurance, and it works pretty well, so I don’t see the problem. And why not have universal access to free post-secondary education—college or apprenticeships? That would benefit individuals and the society at the same time.

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    BeniHanna6 Premium Member 5 months ago

    Love this one, the man-bun really sets it off.

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    librarylady59  5 months ago

    Nothin’. Got nothin’. Such a sad cartoon. :-(

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    Here we go with the asinine “takers” BS on the right, as a distraction from their treason, corruption, and destruction of democracy and civil rights.

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    ChristopherBurns  5 months ago

    The Founding Fathers were all rich white male capitalists.

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    braindead Premium Member 5 months ago

    Instead of the dialogue depicted, Ramirez could chosen: Dude! What about my right to pursuit of happiness?


    Like all the Republican Party of Trump, Ramirez believes that ever increasing wealth inequality has NO negative effects on anyone’s life anywhere and under any circumstances.

    Not in health care, housing, debt, education, job opportunities, nothing.

    And billionaires and patriotic multinational corporations should never be taxed, because, uh, well… homeless people are lazy! Or something.

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    sedrelwesley2 Premium Member 5 months ago

    Thanks for reviving our old friend RED SCARE!!!

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    1StrongBlackWoman Premium Member 5 months ago

    The libs seem even more crabby than usual today.

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    silego  5 months ago

    Ironically, if America had stayed part of England instead of going for independence… the population would have healthcare coverage. The UK actually has a slightly higher “human freedom” score than America.

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    DASch  5 months ago

    When you can’t refute the message, attack the messenger

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    Subversive  5 months ago

    Ironic that the group most likely to sport a sickle and hammer was the campaign staff of the former president back in 2016. They had no qualms about working for Russians and pro-Russian Ukranians and then not reporting it on campaign disclosure documents. Pardons fix everything in political crime cadres. All things the founding fathers never foresaw as possible.

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    AndrewSihler  5 months ago

    The whole college loan thing was a federally-inspired swindle for risk-free ways for banks to make money (which isn’t how “free enterprise” is supposed to work).

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    XtopherSD  5 months ago

    It’s so tiresome again and again to see these Conservative cartoonists (and columnists) repeat the bullsh*t “free healthcare” lie. It isn’t free. However, if we all put additional tax dollars into a well-run universal health care system, collectively we will pay much less for healthcare. Not to mention the economic benefits of a healthier workforce. Sheesh, it just isn’t that complicated.

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    To all you so-called “conservatives”, I’d recommend you read The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. He presents a thoroughly reasoned, darkly funny, and rampagingly angry defense of America’s most maligned social group. He asserts that America’s dirty little secret isn’t racism but classism. When most so-called “conservatives don’t understand much about actual _”socialism"_ and “communism” (other than it’s something they’ve been taught by right-wing media to be automatically hated and feared, and always something to accuse of “the Left”). he also tackles pre-conceptions by “progressives” about right wing “redneck” culture regarding the roles of government, religion, media, and history.

    I excluded the trolls, because they’re both too radicalized to change in any way, and would much rather goad others into a zoo-monkey game of Frisbee Feces.

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    gopher gofer  5 months ago

    Liberalism equals Laziness

    thank you, comrade sun, for today’s quote from the kim jong un big book of aphorisms…

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    Radish the old word monger Premium Member 5 months ago

    Ramirez supports capitalism over people.

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    Indeed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Divide. Distract Destroy. FOX/Limbaugh/Trump/Maga$’ “Populist Politic$”.

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    Greetings in Freedom to all progressives, “Happy Independence Day”! This holiday has been made possible by citizens who were free to speak their minds and fought for our freedom. Celebrate the day while the Maga trolls sulk in the darkness of their hatred.

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    Republicans*, are the party of worthless, criminal lackeys of freeloading parasitic leeches who believe that a society of genuine Working American tax payers should pay for their grifting existence. Fascism only benefits Crime Family freeloaders that hadn’t ever contributed anything for society, yet those same Capos simultaneously believe that they are entitled for such thefts from genuine Working American tax payers through the embezzlement of their hard earned tax dollars. Maga/Fascism equals Laziness

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    Zuhlamon Premium Member 5 months ago

    The trolls seem even more cranky-pated than usual today

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    WCraft Premium Member 5 months ago

    Hey Mr. Man-bun dude, chill. In a few hundred years, there will be a party called the Democrats who will promise to give you all of those things – for free!

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