How did vaccines get so political. I took the sugar cube because my parents said it was good for me, and my doctor said it was good for me. They said I was far less likely to get polio and get crippled by it or even die. They were right.
Funny how educated people believe facts far more than the uneducated.
Ted, please rail on something that makes sense. Or just be quiet.
They’ve had their sources to look at. There are thousands of sites out there detailing vaccines (red-shirt). It’s their choice if they want to cherry-pick. When they continue to ignore anything credible, then the ridicule comes from blue shirt.
My philosophy – I got the vaccine and I’ll live for as long as the GreatMaker allows me!! Those that do not get the vaccine and die, more “toys” for me!! Ain’t I a stinker!??
I leave comments with facts about Covid and Vaccines and I get comments back telling me how much I hate them for trying to keep them alive by telling them to get the shots and wear a mask. Reasoning with a wall would get better results. So they die, tough! I feel real bad for the kids they leave behind though, that is if the kid doesn’t die too.
We are a long way from the time that our “representatives” worked for the best interests of ALL the people they were elected* to represent by using unbiased logic and verified, up-to-date, information and techniques.
* There are states where gerrymandering/redistricting has allowed the suppression of the actual popular vote resulting in disproportionate representation.
Here in Ontario we’re getting close to 80% with two doses, and above 85% with at least one. The (Conservative) government (not my favourite, but give credit where it’s due) has done a good job encouraging people to get vaccinated. All the parties have been working pretty well together. There is now a campaign to take vaccine clinics to neighborhoods which need them most. There has been a recognition that some people distrust the vaccines, and the government has not vilified them. The numbers, by the way, are persuasive: the vaccines are not perfect, but they do a good job against serious illness and death. Serious illness can be measured by hospital admissions, and death can be measured by death. The overwhelming numbers of those with serious illness come from the now small group who are not fully vaccinated.
The few anti-vaxxers that I know will not listen to me because I am an MD. “Biased” they say. Yah, I am biased. I don’t want people to die if they can do something to protect themselves. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said pretty much what the red shirt guy in panel 3 says and how many times people are unwilling to listen because I did not say the magic words like Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or Clorox suppository. I have refused to attend their funerals. If they want to be ignorant, then, in the words of James T Kirk, “Let them die.”
Sadly, not much works. You can tell them you love them and don’t want to see them die. You can point out how guilty they’ll feel if someone they know catches it from them. Some people are so dug in all you can do is hope for the best.
COVID-19’s US death toll on verge of surpassing that of 1918-19 Spanish Flu pandemic
The United States’ known death toll from COVID-19 will surpass the number of dead from the Spanish Flu within the next day or two, according to the side-by-side numbers — though a direct comparison between the raw numbers doesn’t give the whole story, medical experts and statisticians say. What is clear is that the sheer numbers, given the modern-day tools that combat such illnesses, are a heavy burden. COVID-related U.S. deaths as of Sunday night are at 673,763, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
FOX News Poll Affirms that America Overwhelmingly Supports Biden’s COVID Policies
Fox News spent months downplaying the severity of the virus, in synchrony with Donald Trump’s deliberate pattern of deception. Trump and Fox News have even refused to promote common sense mitigation practices for fear of upsetting the Trump cult and/or benefitting President Biden.
However, the latest poll from Fox News reveals where the American people stand on Biden’s plan to defeat COVID. And it does not remotely match the anti-vaccine, anti-mask, malarkey peddled by the likes of Tucker Carlson (who says that vaccines don’t work), Sean Hannity (who steers viewers away from getting vaccinated), and Laura Ingraham (who mocks CDC guidelines). In fact, the results show that Biden’s plan – that was viciously disparaged on Fox News – is favored by significant majorities of the American people. for instance…
69% believe face masks are effective
65% believe vaccines are effective
67% believe schools should require masks for teachers and students
66% believe businesses should require masks for employees and customers
61% support vaccine mandates for teachers
58% support vaccine mandates for federal government employees
55% support vaccine mandates for business employees
56% favor requiring businesses with 100+ employees to require vaccination or weekly testing
54% favor requiring proof of vaccination to participate in indoor activities
55% approve of Biden’s overall handling of the pandemic
If you try to talk to an anti-vaxxer at all, you have to use language that they understand: conspiracy theories with liberals as bad guys. They reject facts and logic automatically. Instead, tell them that liberals don’t want them to get vaccinated against COVID-19 because liberals hope the pandemic will kill them off before they can vote in the next election. And then liberals can replace them with illegal aliens. /s
My wife and I had break through Covid about six weeks ago. Not a lot of fun, but since we are vaccinated we weren’t hospitalized and are now fully recovered.
I think we can all agree that insults do not work with the remaining vaccine hesitant. It’s better to address their anxieties about the vax and try and convince them that by getting vaxxed they’re not only protecting themselves but also their friends and loved ones. That said, my hope is that the courts uphold Biden’s proposed vaccine mandates, if the carrot doesn’t work, the stick might. Also, Ted, the latest research suggest that “Breakthrough” Covid infections are far rarer than initially thought. And if the fully vaxxed do get Covid they will likely get mild symptoms or will be asymptomatic. A friend was going to take me to Annapolis last week but she had a stomach bug so I took the bus. We rode back to DC a few days later, and she said she had a Covid test to make sure she didn’t have Covid. Thankfully, her test came back negative.
Concretionist over 1 year ago
I often think of Rall as being a LOT like the blue shirt guy.
mattro65 over 1 year ago
The guy in the red shirt must feel like Sisyphus. You travel a lonely road in the USA when you’re logical and calm about your beliefs.
pepwine over 1 year ago
How did vaccines get so political. I took the sugar cube because my parents said it was good for me, and my doctor said it was good for me. They said I was far less likely to get polio and get crippled by it or even die. They were right.
Funny how educated people believe facts far more than the uneducated.
Ted, please rail on something that makes sense. Or just be quiet.
ImDaRealAni over 1 year ago
They’ve had their sources to look at. There are thousands of sites out there detailing vaccines (red-shirt). It’s their choice if they want to cherry-pick. When they continue to ignore anything credible, then the ridicule comes from blue shirt.
LookingGlass Premium Member over 1 year ago
My philosophy – I got the vaccine and I’ll live for as long as the Great Maker allows me!! Those that do not get the vaccine and die, more “toys” for me!! Ain’t I a stinker!??
;-)
/SHNARK/
braindead Premium Member over 1 year ago
I’m really, really eager to hear about all the anti-vaxxers who have changed their minds and gotten the shots because of Ted’s persuasive techniques.
I sincerely hope he will share those techniques and a few examples of his successes.
descabro over 1 year ago
There’s always a caveat for every sane truth. And there’s always an unsubtle idiot to exploit it.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member over 1 year ago
I leave comments with facts about Covid and Vaccines and I get comments back telling me how much I hate them for trying to keep them alive by telling them to get the shots and wear a mask. Reasoning with a wall would get better results. So they die, tough! I feel real bad for the kids they leave behind though, that is if the kid doesn’t die too.
VegaAlopex over 1 year ago
As Bill Maher says, don’t waste time arguing politics.
Convicted Pedant over 1 year ago
Wha…?
BeniHanna6 Premium Member over 1 year ago
As seen above, people who can’t logically debate seem to always respond with name calling.
superposition over 1 year ago
We are a long way from the time that our “representatives” worked for the best interests of ALL the people they were elected* to represent by using unbiased logic and verified, up-to-date, information and techniques.
* There are states where gerrymandering/redistricting has allowed the suppression of the actual popular vote resulting in disproportionate representation.
* https://jasonmkelly.com/jason-m-kelly/2020/12/29/the-unequal-representation-of-small-states
* https://ballotpedia.org/State-by-state_redistricting_proceduresLike
rossevrymn over 1 year ago
The truer vignette would be the anti-vaxxer insulting mediator, and he, then waiting for the anti-vaxxer to die.
lonecat over 1 year ago
Here in Ontario we’re getting close to 80% with two doses, and above 85% with at least one. The (Conservative) government (not my favourite, but give credit where it’s due) has done a good job encouraging people to get vaccinated. All the parties have been working pretty well together. There is now a campaign to take vaccine clinics to neighborhoods which need them most. There has been a recognition that some people distrust the vaccines, and the government has not vilified them. The numbers, by the way, are persuasive: the vaccines are not perfect, but they do a good job against serious illness and death. Serious illness can be measured by hospital admissions, and death can be measured by death. The overwhelming numbers of those with serious illness come from the now small group who are not fully vaccinated.
Teto85 Premium Member over 1 year ago
The few anti-vaxxers that I know will not listen to me because I am an MD. “Biased” they say. Yah, I am biased. I don’t want people to die if they can do something to protect themselves. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve said pretty much what the red shirt guy in panel 3 says and how many times people are unwilling to listen because I did not say the magic words like Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or Clorox suppository. I have refused to attend their funerals. If they want to be ignorant, then, in the words of James T Kirk, “Let them die.”
ChristopherBurns over 1 year ago
Sadly, not much works. You can tell them you love them and don’t want to see them die. You can point out how guilty they’ll feel if someone they know catches it from them. Some people are so dug in all you can do is hope for the best.
GaryCooper over 1 year ago
Just how patient are we supposed to be with people who are actively trying to kill us all by defying public health measures?
Cerabooge over 1 year ago
Interesting how the take-the-vaccine-or-DIE folks are so often the same people as the DEATH-before-Ivermectin folks.
Radish the old word monger Premium Member over 1 year ago
COVID-19’s US death toll on verge of surpassing that of 1918-19 Spanish Flu pandemic
The United States’ known death toll from COVID-19 will surpass the number of dead from the Spanish Flu within the next day or two, according to the side-by-side numbers — though a direct comparison between the raw numbers doesn’t give the whole story, medical experts and statisticians say. What is clear is that the sheer numbers, given the modern-day tools that combat such illnesses, are a heavy burden. COVID-related U.S. deaths as of Sunday night are at 673,763, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
https://www.rawstory.com/19s-us-toll-on-verge-of-surpassing-that-of-1918-19-spanish-flu/
Thanks to anti public health republican covid spreaders we will set a new death record, USA, USA!
Radish the old word monger Premium Member over 1 year ago
FOX News Poll Affirms that America Overwhelmingly Supports Biden’s COVID Policies
Fox News spent months downplaying the severity of the virus, in synchrony with Donald Trump’s deliberate pattern of deception. Trump and Fox News have even refused to promote common sense mitigation practices for fear of upsetting the Trump cult and/or benefitting President Biden.
However, the latest poll from Fox News reveals where the American people stand on Biden’s plan to defeat COVID. And it does not remotely match the anti-vaccine, anti-mask, malarkey peddled by the likes of Tucker Carlson (who says that vaccines don’t work), Sean Hannity (who steers viewers away from getting vaccinated), and Laura Ingraham (who mocks CDC guidelines). In fact, the results show that Biden’s plan – that was viciously disparaged on Fox News – is favored by significant majorities of the American people. for instance…
69% believe face masks are effective
65% believe vaccines are effective
67% believe schools should require masks for teachers and students
66% believe businesses should require masks for employees and customers
61% support vaccine mandates for teachers
58% support vaccine mandates for federal government employees
55% support vaccine mandates for business employees
56% favor requiring businesses with 100+ employees to require vaccination or weekly testing
54% favor requiring proof of vaccination to participate in indoor activities
55% approve of Biden’s overall handling of the pandemic
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/19/2053246/-FOX-News-Poll-Affirms-that-America-Overwhelmingly-Supports-Biden-s-COVID-Policies?utm_campaign=recent
Republicans refuse to do what the majority of Americans want, they hate and fear the majority and want to stop your vote.
countoftowergrove over 1 year ago
Glad you’re staying on top of this, Theodore. What is it, your third or fourth cartoon on the pandemic in eighteen months?
halvincobbes Premium Member over 1 year ago
There’s no reason to talk to an anti-vaxxer.
retpost over 1 year ago
We may need to check to see if the problem is inbreeding.
moondog42 Premium Member over 1 year ago
This strategy also works to convince people to vote Democrat.
ferddo over 1 year ago
If you try to talk to an anti-vaxxer at all, you have to use language that they understand: conspiracy theories with liberals as bad guys. They reject facts and logic automatically. Instead, tell them that liberals don’t want them to get vaccinated against COVID-19 because liberals hope the pandemic will kill them off before they can vote in the next election. And then liberals can replace them with illegal aliens. /s
casonia2 over 1 year ago
Generally I hate people, but Ted puts me to shame. He hates EVERYTHING. Always. Evidently it’s a living…
Radish the old word monger Premium Member over 1 year ago
Anti-vaxx ‘needle rape’ doc is at the center of Idaho’s COVID ‘implosion’
https://www.rawstory.com/idaho/
NatureBatsLast over 1 year ago
One more time folks…we have been watching a contest between Biology (science) and Commerce (capitalism). Pick one.
Scoutmaster77 over 1 year ago
My wife and I had break through Covid about six weeks ago. Not a lot of fun, but since we are vaccinated we weren’t hospitalized and are now fully recovered.
GreggW Premium Member over 1 year ago
Take that, Howard Stern!
XtopherSD over 1 year ago
Man, just who are your friends, Rall? They seem horrible.
Northgalus2002 over 1 year ago
I think we can all agree that insults do not work with the remaining vaccine hesitant. It’s better to address their anxieties about the vax and try and convince them that by getting vaxxed they’re not only protecting themselves but also their friends and loved ones. That said, my hope is that the courts uphold Biden’s proposed vaccine mandates, if the carrot doesn’t work, the stick might. Also, Ted, the latest research suggest that “Breakthrough” Covid infections are far rarer than initially thought. And if the fully vaxxed do get Covid they will likely get mild symptoms or will be asymptomatic. A friend was going to take me to Annapolis last week but she had a stomach bug so I took the bus. We rode back to DC a few days later, and she said she had a Covid test to make sure she didn’t have Covid. Thankfully, her test came back negative.