US-Israel Air Force maneuvers
When it comes to wars, BOTH sides can be pretty nasty.
if every palestinian would be doing this, it wouldn’t be many of them left, scottfreitas. There haven’t been a palestinian suicidebomber in years. As every other nation, Palestinians are interested in living in peace, don’t see their farmland being taken away and don’t live under occupation. Yeah, that’s the magic word, occupation. Heard about that before?
It’s interesting that the first recorded “suicide bomber” in history was by a Jewish who killed hundreds of Palestinians..read about shimshon in the Torah.
These acts result from feeling helpless to regain justice in front of brutal power like Israel..
May be we should say( thank you) to our invaders!!!
It takes two to tango
Scott should just check out ETSEL and LESCHI during the early growth of Zionist movements in Palestine after the turn of the century, and their blowing up British school kids as part of the tactics they developed. Also hanging a Brit from a tree and setting off a remote control bomb to kill his rescuers was done around 1921 by the Zionists. So no, their hands are NOT as clean as believed. This is especially true when considering the tactics of hate groups around the world were learned, from THEM!
It was also a Jew who killed their one leader most dedicated to peace in the current process.
Maybe if everyone on BOTH SIDES would ignore that old book of myths, and learn to live together, instead of fuel hatred, we’d all be better off?
dtroutma must be crazy!
nobody uses their frontal lobes any more, I just turn on my wide screen, high definition, marketing/propaganda box and let the truth sink in.
Well, I doubt Obama or Bush would have let a group of people come to America and give them a state.
I believe that the citizens of America should give the Native Indians an entire state, such as Montana. Is that a citizens right? Oh, it is a case of seperation of Government and Citizen. Thats sad.
The United States Gvernment should give Native American Indians an entire State.
Since Palestinians have refused to live peacefully with Israelis, Palestinians should find a piece of land in Saudi Arabia or Africa. Israel is small enough, it should not be split, and should not be a muslim holding. Muslims did not even have a book until 600ad, that is around 600 years after Jesus, and nearly 3000 years after Moses and Abraham.
No , sir We (the Palestinians )don’t want to leave our homeland even if you give us the United States of America in return.We are an ancient and proud nation that dates back before written history(that is ,if you read history).
While the Israelies are composed of multi nationalities, Why don’t you tell the Frensh jwes, the Russian jewes , the ethiopians..etc.. to go back to their homelands instead???
Jeudiasm is a BELIEF that everyone in the world can believe in and not a NATIONALITY!!
Ferther more ,the jews in Israel don’t have anything in common and they discriminate against each other,(you can ask any morrocan , russian , ethiopian about that..)
comYics suggests: ”I believe that the citizens of America should give the Native Indians an entire state, such as Montana.”
More, he also issues forth: ”Since Palestinians have refused to live peacefully with Israelis, Palestinians should find a piece of land in Saudi Arabia or Africa.”
When I left SA as a teenager I could not readily reply whenever people asked me how was it possible that the oppression in South Africa was acceptable to the majority of the whites for so long. But I have since learnt the acquiesce of blatant wrongs was and is not unique to the whites of South Africa.
It is possible anywhere and everywhere and by anyone. (I won’t evoke Godwin’s Law here. Oops, I just have.)
Whenever I read or hear or see comments such as those by comYics and others on this forum and elsewhere, I despair. You are no different to the SA whites who voted for and supported the apartheid policies. In fact, comYics, based on your words, it would have been supported by people such as you.
The Palestinians, as a people, are vilified for having poor leadership, their collective plight ignored or exploited by those who claim to be their champions, and are pawns in the games between the Arab states and Western powers.
The Nationalist party in South Africa were surprised that the Bantusans were not recognised as effective countries by the rest of the world. Didn’t they give the black nations in South Africa their own land? Their own parliaments, presidents, own laws and economies. On 13% of the total area of South Africa, and on the least arable land, over 70% of South Africa’s population at the time were given “homelands”. (Not unlike the American Indian Reservations )
If it was unacceptable for white South Africans to do this, why are we accepting it being done in Palestine?
From The Independent newspaper, UK:
No way home: The tragedy of the Palestinian diaspora
Palestinians are screwed left, right and centre.
They are a nation-pawn in others’ games.
When will people realise they are essentially powerless? Who will take up the cudgels on their behalf without self-interest?
French Jews, Russian Jews, and Ethiopian(?) Jews arent randomly bombing their neighbors. Hence the “Live Peaceably” statement.
Islam wasnt even a religion until 600ad from that Mohammad guy, and Moses and Abraham are Jewish.
I dont believe that Jews discriminate against each other that way. American Jews are closer than one might think.
Look at Sudan, Darfur. Muslim terrorist groups have been commiting genocide(killing off entire races) trying to steal land, its obvious, against the Sudanese people in Africa sometimes killing and raping 100’s a day, have attempted to bomb areas in Russia, America, and England, and recently China. That is how they start, try to numb it up and make it a norm, so they can steal land.
Those muslims koran teaches them to try and convert the whole world and take over the world, and cut off heads of infidels(muslim infidel=those that dont believe in fake allah). Dont forget, that koran wasnt even written until 600ad, nearly 600 years after Jewish Jesus. Islam is an Anti-Christ cult that promotes killing, encourages it. It is not good that convicts such as islamist have any land, each one should be thrown in prison. It is not a religion, its a hate group.
Im not interested in race, color, gender segregation. Im not the racist your lack of percieveing mind calculated.
I am however interested in seperating Good, away from evil. If a group is evil, they dont have a reason to be around good peaceful groups, they dont deserve to exist period.
omQ R said: “Palestinians are screwed left, right and centre.”
So instead of doing immature bombings at a country, palestinians should live peaceably. It is no wonder if Syria does not want them there, after living on Syrias border and bombing Israel out of nowhere.
I think one of the main problems is that in 1967, Israel came under attack by each surrounding muslim country and Israel needed to stay together. Palestinians started to bomb Israel from Syria, and Syria, frightened by that expected Israel to retaliate, called upon Egypt for help. Israel Wasnt going to sit around waiting to get picked off and basically took all of Israel back, Jerusalem Gaza, West Bank. It is seperated by mere caution, that wouldnt even have resulted hadnt some muslims not have initiated those attacks in the first place.
When muslims can understand that cutting heads off of their infidels isnt of GOD, then peace will be closer to realization. We are each people here to live peaceably and love one another to help each other, not worry of ignorant things such as skin color or beliefs. If the one a group is worshipping does not encourage total peace, total Love, then their god is in fact, not a God, simply a lie.
omQ R, please do a search if you have time on the Darfur situation in Africa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict Africans(black, white, pink, yellow, whatever) are being killed daily by muslims invaiding with missiles and guns stealing their land. An estimate of over 400,000 people have been killed in Darfur since 2003 or around that date. Its out of control, and needs to be stopped. Supporting muslim palistinians to fight to take Israel isnt the answer. It is called Israel, live peaceably with your neighbor and stop the strifes between the people, who cares what “nationality” you are, it is only flesh. Evil works are the enemy, not flesh.
God said that the land will prosper where the people fear God.
Look at the Middle East, sand desolate. Israel stoomped by the heathans(reprobates, arrogant, destructive). Lands will prosper without the Godless Islamists.
Every president since Harry S. Truman has utilized a National Day of Prayer, until Barack Obama, who opted out. He did manage to celebrate Ramadan and bow to mecca in the white house. There is no doubt, that Barack Obama is a muslim worshipper.
If you truely want to understand how come the USA is in a depressed mood throughout america, a vexed people with many problems that arent getting solved, and wont until a God fearing President is elected, you now understand that it is because of that, Barack Obama worships mohammed, a murderer, liar, thief, that only intends to kill steal and destroy as practiced in their ungodly book called the koran.
Egypt was once a Christian country. It only took 4000 muslims to convert new Egyptians and become the promonent religion in Egypt. Protestant and Catholic, and Baptist are all considered one religion, Christianity, followers of Christ. There is no need for divisions among Christians. Traditions are the only thing that sets these titles apart. Muslims have announced jihad against America. Jihad is a spiritual warfare used by islamists to try and take over nations and subject nations to submit to islamic ways. Words, little attention getters here and there with bombings, killings, ways to get peoples attention, to cause people to fear. Mohammad taught his followers to harm others, to lie, to enforce his ways upon people that dont agree with him in order to take over power of them. It is an anti peace, anti love, anti American, anti Christ way of thinking, the koran.
Here is a site from a believer in God that is very interesting.
If you go through the subjects on the right column of this site you will notice the topics that are discussed, and hopefully, as I have, enjoy his enthusiasm and conviction. May God bless.